2 Aussie subject English teachers + kids; possibility of working near one another?

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6. Posted by   Meli   9th Jan 2008 at 17:23
It might be worthwhile to look into whether or not Aussie certification is considered qualified or unqualified here in the UK. If it's "UK qualified" that would mean you'd start out earning more. Worth a look-see at least. ;-)
7. Posted by   JessD82   9th Jan 2008 at 18:51
Just to save you a bit of time I know that Aussie's qualifications aren't officially recognized because one of the art teachers at my school is from Australia and she is currently going through qualified teacher status. However, that doesn't mean your school won't decide to pay you more anyway. The only people recognized as qualified are those who trained in the UK or are from the EU.
8. Posted by   the J family   13th Jan 2008 at 09:46
No idea where. Not really ruling anywhere out for now. Lifestyle would be a major deciding factor though (2 young kids...). Thanks for the advice re savings/costs.

Another question: in Australia years of training (as well as years of classroom experience) is a factor in wages...is the amount of time you have spent in teacher training factored into teacher wages in the UK?
9. Posted by   the J family   13th Jan 2008 at 09:50
Oh woops - sorry, hadn't seen the last 2 posts. Wow, that surprises me (that Australian teacher quals aren't recognised). But the schools are negotiable on wages eh? How much negotiation is considered the norm for this? (examples?)
10. Posted by   Meli   13th Jan 2008 at 12:17
Well, I've learned something. Thanks Jess ;-). I know that there are lot's of teachers from the EU who tell me they are getting paid on the qualified scale, but also the teacher at our school from France who is trying to earn QTS. There are teachers from the Common wealth countries at our school who I think are getting paid on the qualified scale, but I know the teachers from Canada aren't. I guess it's evident there's a lot to learn about in this system. Anyway here's what I do know:

Whether or not they will consider paying more to someone from a country from which the certification is not automatically recognized depends on the area of the country and the rules of the local LEA.

For instance, I live in Luton which is in Bedfordshire. I was offered the top pay on the unqualified scale, and Bluewave tried to negotiate more for me but Luton's LEA rules wouldn't allow it eventhough my school requested the exception with the LEA. However, Bedford is also in Bedfordshire and another teacher from the US went there and was paid on the qualified scale from the start because Bedford's LEA rules allowed the school to consider experience and references as well as QTS status.

It never hurts to negotiate a little because it just may work out that the LEA's rules are flexible where you end up. Especially since they'd be getting an opportunity for two experienced teachers. (Experienced teachers can be hard to find for some schools/areas over here.)

Also, getting QTS is actually pretty easy so long as you have a supportive department and mentor. I'll finish mine this month.

Another point to consider, is that I understand that some LEAs have housing for key workers such as teachers which are more affordable. Even if they don't, schools often have someone to help new teachers find suitable housing...they generally want you to be happy so you'll stay. Worth asking about when I position is offered anyway. Make sure your school does know that you'll be looking for a place to live...my school misunderstood and thought Bluewave had found me one already.

Hopefully, there's something helpful here.
Meli
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